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Should private corporations have remote dialup access to voting machines?
The Green Party Recount Coordinator for Fulton and Henry counties reports: "The Director for Fulton told me that Triad is able to reprogram the computer to count only the Presidential ballots by remote dial-up. I do not know when after the election that occurred."
December 23, 2004 in 3 - Voting Machines | Permalink
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Apparently the sample of recounted votes in Allen County was not randomly chosen. If it's "pre-selected", how is that fair? If you are entitled to a recount of a random sample of 3% under Ohio law, why is the Board of Elections allowed to "pre-select"? It completely undermines the purpose of a recount.
Posted by: J. Holbrook | Dec 23, 2004 1:08:11 PM
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Posted by: joyce | Dec 25, 2004 10:30:19 PM
Claim The 5th!! Well, it has been claimed at an alarmingly disproportionate rate this year, supporting a strong possibility that the people claiming it would rather not speak, than tell the truth. These people know they would have to lie if they said anything at all, because the truth is the death warrant to their precious political careers.
"Should private corporations have remote dialup access to voting machines?"
~Absolutely NOT! It has been shown on several occasions that these private for profit software companines, along with Diebold, Sequoia and ES&S e-vote machine manufacturers are all heavily pro republican party. At the very least this is a severe conflict of interest, running similarly to the Ohio Secretary of State dual control of the Election Board as well as co-chairman of the Bush-Cheney Re-election campaign.
We are complete fools to have allowed this administration to implement the HAVA Act without a single supporting federal regulation or paper trail. We, The People, have been effectively manipulated and removed from governing any plausible truth via our voting right. It is one of the travesties of our time, a black mark in our history.
Posted by: StevenDiBo | Dec 27, 2004 1:36:46 PM
I've looked high and low,
where are the federal guidelines for
calibrating a machine before use
as is done on any measuring device.
election official before opening the voting place:
1) marks dummy ballots
2) submits to machine
3) documents machine tally with that which is expected.
Posted by: dan | Dec 27, 2004 9:24:01 PM
I design computer systems for a living. Mostly big ones. I've done it
for a long time now.
In every venue I've worked -- law enforcement, lobbying, health care,
industrial medicine, international development, even lobbying -- the
rules are clear. All transactions must be write-once and auditable. All access must be
documented and verified as to person and privilege. Unspecified and undocumented "fooling
around", like reprogramming the computer to count only certain things, or "servicing machines" without clear purpose and protocol is potential grounds for firing if not prosecution.
Forget the dial-up -- it's incidental, not key to the issue. The point isn't
whether or not somebody needs to physically sit in front of the console to do
an action. The point is that the people who theoretically own the system --
that's us and our proxies in Fulton County -- have no idea what rules the
system operates under, who can do what, and who in fact did what. A system
like this might as well be an etch-a-sketch with somebody hiding behind it
with a magnetic pen. The computers are just for window dressing.
That's just crazy. You can bet your bottom dollar that the Halliburton
paycheck system is audited, secured, and very well understood and controlled.
After all, that's real money.
And this is what? Chopped liver?
There appear to be two classes of computer systems emerging with some deliberate confusion as to which are which. On one hand we have secure and audited enterprise systems used for credit card transactions, online banking, and other "important" functions. On the other we have more personal, insecure and haphazard spreadsheet-like systems used for informal polls, word processing, home databases, amateur websites and general fooling around. It appears that our voting systems are the second -- insecure -- kind, and that we're being sold the impression that they are the first -- secure -- kind.
Somewhere, somebody who understands the very well-documented rules under which
computer systems operate and very good at explaining things, needs to begin
to educate our voting public that these so-called voting computers bear no
resemblence to the trusted systems that handle their credit card transactions
and online banking. These are not real computer systems in the way that the
public has come to understand the term.
R.
Posted by: Robin | Dec 27, 2004 10:33:02 PM
PROOF OF VOTER SUPPRESSION IN WARREN COUNTY
From local newspaper "The Western Star"
Letters to the Editor from Western Star, Lebanon,Oh
Thursday, November 11, 2004
Long lines ultimately affected LM bond issue
Due to the extremely long lines at the Baptist Church on U.S. 22/Ohio 3, many Hamilton Twp. voters were required to wait between two and four hours on Nov. 2. I was one of the voters who allotted at least two hours of my time (by leaving work early) and still did not get to vote! This is unacceptable.
I am very disappointed, especially not being able to cast my vote in favor of the Little Miami Schools bond issue. I feel that this bond issue may have passed if everyone had been able to wait the required (up to four hours) to vote. My husband finally gave up (due to other commitments — home and children) after waiting over three hours. How many are out there like us? Our school levy may have passed if the working parents could have all been able to stand endlessly through the lines to get in to cast our ballots.
After thinking about this, I called the Warren County Board of Elections office in Lebanon Nov. 3. I found out a third precinct was added to our site in addition to the two that were already assigned there. Their answer to the situation was that there is no way of knowing how many voters will actually turn out. I have heard for weeks the prediction of heavy voters in the news. I also heard from other voters that no long lines existed at the Morrow site down the road. Does this make sense to anyone?
Surprise! We need more voting sites and voting booths in one of the fastest growing areas in Ohio.
Since I got no definitive resolution from the Warren County Board of Elections (that any hope of a change might take place), my only alternative is to vote absentee in the future. That is the only way I can ensure that my vote will be cast and counted! Everyone that wanted to vote but couldn’t — vote absentee and pass our Little Miami Schools bond issue at the next available date! Maybe then we can actually place all of our children within our buildings instead of in trailers or the church-rented space down the street!
DIANE E. BEBOUT
Hamilton Twp.
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Posted by: grace | Dec 31, 2004 2:01:26 PM
Dear Robin,
Check out http://www.blackboxvoting.org. This lady has been chasing these computer related problems for years and is currently chasing fraud in Florida and elsewhere. She has a book about black box voting available at Amazon or for free download (pdf) on her web site. This book is an easy quick read that provides a lot of detail as to the various problems with electronic vote tabulation.
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