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Voting in America: Still Separate and Unequal?
Lynne Serpe writes: "How could there be such a glaring disparity between the white and black sections of Cuyahoga County in the distribution of provisional ballots? And why would so many African Americans wait for up to ten hours in some instances to vote using provisional ballots instead of regular ballots? ... By looking only for provable fraud, and not investigating the obvious question why minority voters and white voters had extremely different experiences on Election Day, [newspaper] editors — and each of us — are choosing to accept as a given that when minority voters receive second-class status, it is not really news... That is indeed a sad commentary for a country that purports to be ready to support the development of democracy in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Ukraine. Fifty years after Rosa Parks took a stand, I guess it is still okay if some of us ride in the back of the bus."
December 23, 2004 in 2 - Race and Voting | Permalink
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I think it is a national disgrace that people are forced to wait in line for hours and even then, in many cases, cannot cast a vote. Or if they do cast a vote, they are forced to cast a vote that is only provisional. This must stop now.
Posted by: Alana Greene | Dec 23, 2004 1:03:48 PM
I think people should follow the rules pertaining to registering and voting.
Also, people would not have to wait in line if they were not bussed in at the last minute by left-wing activists.
I witnessed this activity at my university. Campus democrats had an election party where they served alchohol all day and then at the last minute board a bus to crash the polls a half hour before closing.
These tactics are designed to disrupt the process and create a scandal where none existed.
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Posted by: Paulo | Dec 24, 2004 1:34:33 PM
Hi Paulo,
Which university is this? Please identify so we can investigate.
What you have described is the rare exception, if it is true at all. Watch the video on the votecobb website and see the real deal. These people were not "bussed in by left wing activists." They lived there, and were excluded by GOP Jim Crow tactics.
This is another one of the lies being perpetuated by people who do not want to deal with the racism involved here. Please watch the video, and help us end separate but equal voting in Ohio.
Posted by: Phil | Dec 24, 2004 2:48:12 PM
Thank your for the new Blog!!!! Lyne and Co, I've been in touch by e-mail with you and been talking up the recount effort at my blog, at DU and CGCS and everywhere I can. Carry on the good work fellow patriots!
Posted by: JamBoi | Dec 24, 2004 3:39:35 PM
Lynne and the powers that be here. Can we set up a Blog for the NM recount? I have contact with Mitch of the Recount NM effort, and they need this kind of focal point too. Please e-mail me at jamboi at yahoo dot com . Thanks!
JamBoi
Posted by: JamBoi | Dec 25, 2004 3:04:39 AM
Are there any plans to recount Iowa? They probably don't have many Electoral votes but on John Kerry's Blog around 1:30am Nov. 3 people were very upset about Iowa stopping counting because "The workers were exhausted." And the bloggers asked why Iowa did not have a second shift for the Presidential Election Night. There were many more volunteers of every kind that Iowa could have tapped into if they could not afford a second shift.
It took Iowa, 3 days to report (those workers must really have been exhausted) that bush had won by 10,000 votes in Iowa. That's a long time to take to manipulate the results by such a tiny margin for bush. I wonder how much of a landslide Kerry really had in Iowa.
Is anyone investigating this strange action of ceasing to count the votes on Election night 1:30 am because the workers were too tired and then waiting three days to report. Another stinking fishy smell.
Posted by: Linda Leonard | Dec 25, 2004 11:19:55 PM
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Posted by: Doug Kenline | Dec 26, 2004 1:16:00 AM
With all the irregularities being reported in Ohio, it is obvious that there was fraud and stealing in that state. The closer it gets to January 6th when Bu$h will be certified as the winner of the election, the challenge to the election must be pushed and pushed hard. Once they certify Bu$h, we will never be able to stop his taking office even though the election was stolen. Everything possible must be done NOW to stop this from happening!
Posted by: Ruth | Dec 26, 2004 4:31:07 AM
Re, problems in Iowa: in my county, the auditor put out calls for more volutnteers - they needed something like 300 more here. Unfortunately, in Iowa, only registered members of the top two vote-getting parties may work the polls, so that leaves out the 1/3 of Iowans who are registered "No Party" (the onyl other alternative besiedes Democrat and Republican), and of course, no third party memebers were eligible. I'm sure more of our auditors are looking more favorably on opening up the eligibility requirement after this election.
In terms of manipupating the machinery, I suspect there wasa lot less fraud on the local end, and kmore glitches in the software. I heard plenty of reports of progressive voters being challenged, something that appears to have been fairly well organized ahead of time.
Posted by: Holly | Dec 26, 2004 8:29:13 PM
I want to invite everyone who wants to hear what libertarians in Ohio are saying about the recount to visit FreeOhio's email list at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreeOhio/
We're covering in depth this issue and welcome any new news or opinion.
Regards, Matt Gaylor-
Posted by: Matt Gaylor | Dec 27, 2004 12:25:08 PM
I think the MAIN thing everybody should be talking about is overlooked by people and the media. Isn't it ODD at a minimum, and more likely PROOF of ELECTION FRAUD ... That every single "goof", "mistake", "computer glitch", "accident", or whatever they call the anomaly ... erred in FAVOR of Bush and against Kerry? Statically what are the "odds" of that happening? Every time we hear of a "computer glitch" it's giving EXTRA votes to Bush. Every instance of "accidental" dropped, erased or deleted votes are TAKEN from Kerry. Can't a statistician or even a common bookmaker from the gambling scene tell us that it's near IMPOSSIBLE for that to have happened in the "real world" and that it's likely PROOF of an intentional, planned FRAUD? How "lucky" can this Bush guy be? To have every single "glitch" "accidentally" go his way? I know there are antidotal accounts of a very small number of instances where Kerry got a few extra votes .... DON'T DARE compare that to the OVERWHELMING and lop-sided "accidental" votes that "mysteriously" went to Bush. AND it's NOT just Ohio and NM and NC. There are reports of this in just about every state in the union ... Every single "glitch" that I've read about, in different states, by-in-large, gave votes to Bush or took votes from Kerry. SERIOUSLY, what are the "odds" of this happening? ... Could it be Kerry won a lot more states than he got credit for?
..... And the next time somebody tells you "Bush won by a majority of votes" and/or "The MAJORITY of the people WANT Bush" Remind them that out of 350 MILLION-some-odd-people who live in this country ..... ONLY 54 million or so, voted FOR Bush (I'm giving him credit for SOME votes that may be TOTALLY FAKE!) .... But 54 out of 350 is FAR from the MAJORITY of the American people ... The emperor has no clothes!
Posted by: Stony | Jan 9, 2005 1:16:26 PM
One point you all seem to be missing regarding lines as proof of voter suppression: voting is controlled by local units of government. If a local unit of government is inhabited by large numbers of minorities, it is most likely governed by minority elected officials. These elected officials are to blame for being poorly organized polling places and lack of equipment. Many of the large cities in America are financial and political messes including the clerks offices. Show me the conspiracy?
Posted by: steve linder | Feb 2, 2005 12:21:54 PM
Thanks for your perspective on this important issue. One piece that may be missing, however, is that bias in every state and in almost every circumstance favored Bush and the GOP. That is why many of us believe foul play was involved. It is statistically impossible for so many errors to all break for one candidate or party.
As for your point about minority voting officials, I absolutely agree that minorities can oppress other minorities, and in fact Kenneth Blackwell (an African American) did more to suppress the votes of African Americans than anyone else in Ohio in 2004. Historically, there were reasons why some minorites felt the need to identify with their oppressors, and the hierarchy of field slaves and house slaves was just one example of how the rulers kept all African Americans down by getting them to fight each other instead of the system as a whole.
You should read "The Poor Pay More" and other books on how the poor and minorites get the worst food, stores, police protection, education, etc. The mythology that "the poor deserve what they get because they are lazy" etc keep us all from addressing these systemic problems for what they are: systemic problems that cannot be addressed solely by one or two people, no matter what the color of their skin.
The movement to address the vote fraud is part of a larger movement to address the systemic inequalities in this society, and I hope you will dedicate part of your life to that movement.
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